South African Desteni Group; Living Word

INTRODUCTION
Near the end of October another interaction occurred between Veno and me. You can read the original interaction at Is the Portal Being Fooled.

(GIBBON:) Hi Shelly

Thanks for writing! Let's explore the possibility that we are dealing with demonic mind-systems here and how they present themselves as the opposite. Do people who tune into this 'desteni-vibration' feel better or worse than before their entrance? (if they are allowed to feel anything that is)

enjoy

(VENO:)
Gibbon

Naturally it’ll make you ‘feel worse’ when you come onto this website because you realise, see and understand how you’ve been mindf—ked your entire life – what you’ve accepted and allowed to participate within and exist as.

Then it is to in this realisation stand up and take responsibility for yourself to stop the mind as all that we have accepted and allowed to no longer accept and allow what we have manifested and designed as this existence and this world to become.

We are different Gibbon – here we’re direct, frank and straight – no ‘beating around the beautiful rose bush’ – human beings require self honesty, require the direct perspective – they don’t like / prefer the airy fairy bullshit preached around the world – the ‘cry’ for equality and oneness exist within each Gibbon – that’s why beings are here – here they see themselves, they ‘get to know themselves’ – they discover themselves – not available to be done on any other site – here it’s each within their own individual process – we now and then give direction, perspective, assistance or support when necessary / asked – that’s it – each one is here for themselves.

And this Gibbon is what you don’t ‘get’ – or want to see: That each one is here for themselves as themselves – that’s it.

Continue ‘trying’ / ‘attempting’ to understand what we do and who we are with your mind – build the frustration, anger – until you in one moment have to stop Gibbon – the mind can only last for SO long on ONE POINT – then it gives up.

Enjoy yourself Gibbon – I am.

Veno

(GIBBON:) Hi Veno,

It would make it easier if you'd get your own account. But we've been through that before, like we've been through a number of things before. But I would like to give it another try because I am testing this possibility that you are a demonic entity trying to fool human beings. You wouldn't mind that, would you?

So, may I invite you for this dance, my fourth-dimensional friend? If you don't have any demonic intentions you would surely like to give it a go, or should I first read and watch everything on the site (and get brainwashed during the ride)?

Let's take a look at your words, dear Veno:

BEING DIRECT, FRANK AND STRAIGHT
You kindly say:

We are different Gibbon – here we’re direct, frank and straight – no ‘beating around the beautiful rose bush’

Perhaps I am reading this in the wrong way, but you seem to suggest that I am not direct, frank and straight. If you would sincerely read the various texts that I have written on you guys (see Desteni Explorations at Gibbon site it looks rather direct, frank and straight to me. Perhaps you can give some examples of me beating around the bush? (knowing you, you will probably ignore this request)

AIRY FAIRY BULLSHIT
Again you seem to suggest that I'm preaching airy fairy bullshit. Before getting into that I would like to suggest that you pay a bit more attention to the words you use. Some people believe that words hold a certain 'vibration'. The repetitive use of terms like 'f*ck' and bullshit to me are no signs of a well-developed being.

The main thrust of my critique to Veno and co. is that you want people to stop thinking, to stop feeling. You also have started a semantic war, thereby confusing people with the meaning of words like consciousness, soul and thought. When I suggest that perhaps we have the ability to aim for thinking differently instead of not thinking at all, I wouldn't call it airy-fairy talk. When I read some of the responses by the Desteni-members it more than often appears rather 'mystical' with the recurrent use of magic mantra's.

WE NOW AND THEN GIVE DIRECTION

That seems like quite an understatement to me. Even though you say that everyone here is 'here to get to know themselves' I can't help but stumble upon the directions you seem to give again and again. Don't you think it is rather contradictory to say that people are here to get to know themselves whereas at the same time you propagate the stopping of any thought-process? How are you to get to know yourself if you are not allowed to explore, think and feel about yourself? Who is getting to know themselves (see the question in the discussion thread on SELF AND I which was not answered either)? What element within me would need to turn the mind off?

The main direction you give to people is to become mindless and follow your rules and your belief-system, acting as if it is a 'system-breaker' wheras it looks more like a new 'dimensional' mind-numbing system to me.

Perhaps you would like to consider the possibility that I am here for myself as well and I have to admit I get to know myself better and on top of that I get a vista into your 'demonic system' which allows me to better recognize the ways our minds can get twisted.

I already want to thank you for that Veno, showing me 'the ways of the demon'.

Have fun and don't forget to tell Winged that you are not dependent on her, nor on any other human for your survival. Wink

See you,
Gibbon
October 2007

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